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		<title>By: mpdzwlduwa</title>
		<link>http://lifesabluff.com/2008/01/11/online-poker-is-rigged/comment-page-1/#comment-74178</link>
		<dc:creator>mpdzwlduwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://lifesabluff.com/2008/01/11/online-poker-is-rigged/comment-page-1/#comment-73681</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOL at the peeps who cannot  see it is clearly rigged.

It surely IS random.  Random WITHIN a set of given parameters.  Those parameters are primarily redistribution of funds.

The more the money in the site is redistributed, the more it is played, the more rake is taken.  It&#039;s simple.

That&#039;s why when nearing the bubble in MTT&#039;s and specially SnG&#039;s that take longer than normal you will see the usual increase in pocket hole cards.  This, obviously is to thin the field, award the prizes, and get everyone back to playing more tournaments/ring games etc...

Also, shaving 10% off the time it takes to finish a tournament shaves 10% off the cost of data hosting those tournaments.  No point in wasting traffic costs when the money has already been made.

These sites have NO legal obligations whatsoever to you, and you have NO legal recourse.

Slot machines are random - but within set parameters, they obviously have to make a profit, which they do, a percentage at a time.  Overall, slots payout big and small, but always remain a winner, the standard house edge.

Pokerstars is the same.  It&#039;s random within a set of parameters.  There is no house edge at Pokerstars, just the rake.  And the redistribution of funds is primarily achieved through action flops/drama boards.  

It&#039;s JUST like slot machines.

Stars and Tilt are set to redistribute funds.  It&#039;s up to us to capitalise on this, and the better players do.

Chris Ferguson even set up the Full Tilt Poker Academy to show you exactly how to play to minimise loss/maximise profit during chip redistribution.  He actually tells/shows you how to play to suit the redistribution algorithm at FullTilt and come out ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOL at the peeps who cannot  see it is clearly rigged.</p>
<p>It surely IS random.  Random WITHIN a set of given parameters.  Those parameters are primarily redistribution of funds.</p>
<p>The more the money in the site is redistributed, the more it is played, the more rake is taken.  It&#8217;s simple.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why when nearing the bubble in MTT&#8217;s and specially SnG&#8217;s that take longer than normal you will see the usual increase in pocket hole cards.  This, obviously is to thin the field, award the prizes, and get everyone back to playing more tournaments/ring games etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, shaving 10% off the time it takes to finish a tournament shaves 10% off the cost of data hosting those tournaments.  No point in wasting traffic costs when the money has already been made.</p>
<p>These sites have NO legal obligations whatsoever to you, and you have NO legal recourse.</p>
<p>Slot machines are random &#8211; but within set parameters, they obviously have to make a profit, which they do, a percentage at a time.  Overall, slots payout big and small, but always remain a winner, the standard house edge.</p>
<p>Pokerstars is the same.  It&#8217;s random within a set of parameters.  There is no house edge at Pokerstars, just the rake.  And the redistribution of funds is primarily achieved through action flops/drama boards.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s JUST like slot machines.</p>
<p>Stars and Tilt are set to redistribute funds.  It&#8217;s up to us to capitalise on this, and the better players do.</p>
<p>Chris Ferguson even set up the Full Tilt Poker Academy to show you exactly how to play to minimise loss/maximise profit during chip redistribution.  He actually tells/shows you how to play to suit the redistribution algorithm at FullTilt and come out ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: SavageChrist</title>
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		<dc:creator>SavageChrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the longest time, I&#039;ve suspected that online poker, especially at the lower limits, is &quot;fixed&quot; towards less than optimal players.  And while I don&#039;t believe it is, well this hand today definitely has me raising questions.  The thing is this player was playing perfectly normal the whole game, solid OVR considering the stakes and game we were playing, as the 1st few hands of playing 3 handed got going.  Then the below happened...

Full Tilt Poker Game #18118402490: $1.50+$0.20 Sit&amp;Go (Sup Turbo) (137010913), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold&#039;em - 10:21:22 ET - 2010/02/02
Seat 1: MrPinkX (570)
Seat 6: kracy49 (895)
Seat 7: SavageChrist (1,235)
SavageChrist posts the small blind of 30
MrPinkX posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SavageChrist [Jd Jc]
kracy49 raises to 895, and is all in
SavageChrist calls 865
MrPinkX folds
kracy49 shows [4h Ks]
SavageChrist shows [Jd Jc]
*** FLOP *** [6s Kd 3s]
*** TURN *** [6s Kd 3s] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [6s Kd 3s Kh] [5h]
kracy49 shows three of a kind, Kings
SavageChrist shows two pair, Kings and Jacks
kracy49 wins the pot (1,850) with three of a kind, Kings
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,850 &#124; Rake 0
Board: [6s Kd 3s Kh 5h]
Seat 1: MrPinkX (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: kracy49 (button) showed [4h Ks] and won (1,850) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 7: SavageChrist (small blind) showed [Jd Jc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks

Tell me of 1 online player that would open shove K4o with &gt;10 BB&#039;s 3 handed, and from 1st to act also in those particular game and stakes.  I know no1 would do that live, especially with lots of time left to play, whether it be for small stakes, or WSOP glory.  Yes, I&#039;ll gladly take JJ all day vs K4o preflop, but that&#039;s not the point here.  And don&#039;t scream variance either, because this was way out of the blue for the player to do what they did in the above HH.  Someone would only do that, IMO, if they knew what was coming, AND knew I was going to get dealt a hand to good to fold such as the JJ to call that massive donkey shove pre flop.

Never in all my time playing those crazy STSNG&#039;s have I seen anyone play that stupid preflop, and get rewarded for it.  And it was totally unneccesary for him to do what he did at that stage of the SNG.  I swear, 1/2 the time it seems, people plays these whack hands that they do, and its like they know what&#039;s coming, hence why they treat it like AA, KK, etc.  And before I get flamed, yes I know it was a $1.70 SNG, but its all I can play now as I try to build up from very little.  It&#039;s $hit like this that keeps me from ever wanting to deposit on these sites for significant $ again, where as I can buy $10 here and there from friends as I try to build up from those.  Plus I don&#039;t have to pay all of the darn deposit fees since the US player&#039;s options are so limited now.  I remember when I could put in with my Debit Card, then when that avenue got blocked, it was epassporte, then when that got blocked, bank CC, and now that that&#039;s blocked, I haven&#039;t put another dime in since...

I&#039;ve also noticed many &quot;pattern hands&quot; myself, along with the &quot;cash out curse&quot; and the run of good fortune when you put $ in / open an account for the 1st time, and immediate also.  And seeing how there are many others who noticed these same things that I did, makes me not so paranoid then...

So is it rigged?  I honestly do not know, although at times it does have that &quot;feel&quot; of manipulation, whether it be good or bad.  It&#039;ll be interesting to see what is unearthed down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the longest time, I&#8217;ve suspected that online poker, especially at the lower limits, is &#8220;fixed&#8221; towards less than optimal players.  And while I don&#8217;t believe it is, well this hand today definitely has me raising questions.  The thing is this player was playing perfectly normal the whole game, solid OVR considering the stakes and game we were playing, as the 1st few hands of playing 3 handed got going.  Then the below happened&#8230;</p>
<p>Full Tilt Poker Game #18118402490: $1.50+$0.20 Sit&amp;Go (Sup Turbo) (137010913), Table 1 &#8211; 30/60 &#8211; No Limit Hold&#8217;em &#8211; 10:21:22 ET &#8211; 2010/02/02<br />
Seat 1: MrPinkX (570)<br />
Seat 6: kracy49 (895)<br />
Seat 7: SavageChrist (1,235)<br />
SavageChrist posts the small blind of 30<br />
MrPinkX posts the big blind of 60<br />
The button is in seat #6<br />
*** HOLE CARDS ***<br />
Dealt to SavageChrist [Jd Jc]<br />
kracy49 raises to 895, and is all in<br />
SavageChrist calls 865<br />
MrPinkX folds<br />
kracy49 shows [4h Ks]<br />
SavageChrist shows [Jd Jc]<br />
*** FLOP *** [6s Kd 3s]<br />
*** TURN *** [6s Kd 3s] [Kh]<br />
*** RIVER *** [6s Kd 3s Kh] [5h]<br />
kracy49 shows three of a kind, Kings<br />
SavageChrist shows two pair, Kings and Jacks<br />
kracy49 wins the pot (1,850) with three of a kind, Kings<br />
*** SUMMARY ***<br />
Total pot 1,850 | Rake 0<br />
Board: [6s Kd 3s Kh 5h]<br />
Seat 1: MrPinkX (big blind) folded before the Flop<br />
Seat 6: kracy49 (button) showed [4h Ks] and won (1,850) with three of a kind, Kings<br />
Seat 7: SavageChrist (small blind) showed [Jd Jc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks</p>
<p>Tell me of 1 online player that would open shove K4o with &gt;10 BB&#8217;s 3 handed, and from 1st to act also in those particular game and stakes.  I know no1 would do that live, especially with lots of time left to play, whether it be for small stakes, or WSOP glory.  Yes, I&#8217;ll gladly take JJ all day vs K4o preflop, but that&#8217;s not the point here.  And don&#8217;t scream variance either, because this was way out of the blue for the player to do what they did in the above HH.  Someone would only do that, IMO, if they knew what was coming, AND knew I was going to get dealt a hand to good to fold such as the JJ to call that massive donkey shove pre flop.</p>
<p>Never in all my time playing those crazy STSNG&#8217;s have I seen anyone play that stupid preflop, and get rewarded for it.  And it was totally unneccesary for him to do what he did at that stage of the SNG.  I swear, 1/2 the time it seems, people plays these whack hands that they do, and its like they know what&#8217;s coming, hence why they treat it like AA, KK, etc.  And before I get flamed, yes I know it was a $1.70 SNG, but its all I can play now as I try to build up from very little.  It&#8217;s $hit like this that keeps me from ever wanting to deposit on these sites for significant $ again, where as I can buy $10 here and there from friends as I try to build up from those.  Plus I don&#8217;t have to pay all of the darn deposit fees since the US player&#8217;s options are so limited now.  I remember when I could put in with my Debit Card, then when that avenue got blocked, it was epassporte, then when that got blocked, bank CC, and now that that&#8217;s blocked, I haven&#8217;t put another dime in since&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also noticed many &#8220;pattern hands&#8221; myself, along with the &#8220;cash out curse&#8221; and the run of good fortune when you put $ in / open an account for the 1st time, and immediate also.  And seeing how there are many others who noticed these same things that I did, makes me not so paranoid then&#8230;</p>
<p>So is it rigged?  I honestly do not know, although at times it does have that &#8220;feel&#8221; of manipulation, whether it be good or bad.  It&#8217;ll be interesting to see what is unearthed down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Raul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok guys, i&#039;ve been playing online poker for like 5 years now and my conclusion is that is totally rigged. It is impossible to win at online poker if you don&#039;t know RNG. This guys that win constantly at online poker big tournaments, they have to know something. I believe that is all bout the RNG. I&#039;m from Latin America and i also play at my local casino, with lot of tourists and very different players in all tourneys. I&#039;ve managed to cash a lot of times, i mean lot and at online poker it seems to be harder. Not because of the amount players because that s irrelevant, its all about the structure of the tournament. With a good tournament structure, good knowledge about odds, good reads, the true random factor of the cards and agressiveness you can win constantly (Thanks to online poker rooms being rigged i studied more of course). I consider the &#039;&#039;winners&#039;&#039; in online poker, scammers, they just figured out the algorithm of the RNG of course, they have studied it. And they are cashing BIG on it. I personally know one player that is awful at live play but he managed to win the SUNDAY MILLION and he&#039;s been cashing for about 2 years now on a regular basis. Just check the pocket fives site and you will see this, they are always the same players but you don&#039;t see them winning constantly in live play. Few of them won major tournaments but its only because some of them are very smart and studied before they figured out how online poker works. Yesterday and today i saw, in 6 times in different tables I was playing on, Four of a kind been made with one holding card and the other three of them on the flop. I dont know about the odds of that happening, it has to be hard for that to happen. Actually in live play ive seen that happen only once or twice in my life, and ive played as many hands as in online poker. Because of us player, this BILLIONAIRE companies will be unmasked soon, not because they want to cheat us, they actually didnt know that at the begginig. They not even know the growth online poker was going to have by this time now. Its because of the profits they make, they want to keep this as a secret and they wont be able to keep doing this for long time. And no, we wont be able to claim our money, theres only not enough to compensate everyone. So just as me, not play at any poker site until they actually fixed that issue. Or if you want try to figure out the shit for yourself or ask any &#039;&#039;winner&#039;&#039; too see if they will tell something you dont know and maybe cash BIG as they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok guys, i&#8217;ve been playing online poker for like 5 years now and my conclusion is that is totally rigged. It is impossible to win at online poker if you don&#8217;t know RNG. This guys that win constantly at online poker big tournaments, they have to know something. I believe that is all bout the RNG. I&#8217;m from Latin America and i also play at my local casino, with lot of tourists and very different players in all tourneys. I&#8217;ve managed to cash a lot of times, i mean lot and at online poker it seems to be harder. Not because of the amount players because that s irrelevant, its all about the structure of the tournament. With a good tournament structure, good knowledge about odds, good reads, the true random factor of the cards and agressiveness you can win constantly (Thanks to online poker rooms being rigged i studied more of course). I consider the &#8221;winners&#8221; in online poker, scammers, they just figured out the algorithm of the RNG of course, they have studied it. And they are cashing BIG on it. I personally know one player that is awful at live play but he managed to win the SUNDAY MILLION and he&#8217;s been cashing for about 2 years now on a regular basis. Just check the pocket fives site and you will see this, they are always the same players but you don&#8217;t see them winning constantly in live play. Few of them won major tournaments but its only because some of them are very smart and studied before they figured out how online poker works. Yesterday and today i saw, in 6 times in different tables I was playing on, Four of a kind been made with one holding card and the other three of them on the flop. I dont know about the odds of that happening, it has to be hard for that to happen. Actually in live play ive seen that happen only once or twice in my life, and ive played as many hands as in online poker. Because of us player, this BILLIONAIRE companies will be unmasked soon, not because they want to cheat us, they actually didnt know that at the begginig. They not even know the growth online poker was going to have by this time now. Its because of the profits they make, they want to keep this as a secret and they wont be able to keep doing this for long time. And no, we wont be able to claim our money, theres only not enough to compensate everyone. So just as me, not play at any poker site until they actually fixed that issue. Or if you want try to figure out the shit for yourself or ask any &#8221;winner&#8221; too see if they will tell something you dont know and maybe cash BIG as they do.</p>
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		<title>By: dumb walrus = retard</title>
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		<dc:creator>dumb walrus = retard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading through these comments has brought me feelings of content and happiness because it&#039;s like reading an auto-biography of myself and my pokerstars experience if i were to write one. You all are pristinely on the money. Thank you so much. And by the way, for anyone who&#039;s been ripped off to no end by pokerstars I&#039;d highly recommend Full Tilt. The action flops, suckouts, and ridiculous bad beats are still there, but in much less abundance and it seems to reward you for good plays and punish you for bad ones. Still rigged; not what poker is all about, but good enough. At least it&#039;s fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading through these comments has brought me feelings of content and happiness because it&#8217;s like reading an auto-biography of myself and my pokerstars experience if i were to write one. You all are pristinely on the money. Thank you so much. And by the way, for anyone who&#8217;s been ripped off to no end by pokerstars I&#8217;d highly recommend Full Tilt. The action flops, suckouts, and ridiculous bad beats are still there, but in much less abundance and it seems to reward you for good plays and punish you for bad ones. Still rigged; not what poker is all about, but good enough. At least it&#8217;s fair.</p>
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